I’m dragging this war thread into the Texas Polygamist Cult story.

Yet another reason (in addition to Dean May’s arguments being loco) for me to quit.

So, I quit. Unless one of my bretheren cares to start up a polygamy thread.

First:

Some logic for you:

1. The state sanctions divorce. Divorce is evil. The state should not sanction divorce.

2. The state does not sanction polygamy. Polygamy is evil. The state should not sanction polygamy.

So, you can’t say that because the state permits divorce, it should permit polygamy.

Second:

While we are haughtly pronouncing divine warnings, I should point out that the worship of children, or the institution of parenthood, or the exaltation of any thing or idea above God and the Law of God, is a sin of idolatry, forbidden by the first (or second-your mileage may vary) commandment and punishable by all sorts of nasty things.

That opinion (beside being unbiblical) places you on the fringe of 2000 years of Christian civilization. Return ye thereunto in peace.

“Far more abhorrent to the laws of God is our common practice of serial polygamy. That apparently doesn’t bother you nearly so much. Since it is sanctioned by the state god that is apparently good enough for you.”

No, it’s not. Both are equally abhorrent. Ref. Christ vs. Woman at the Well. However, one is far more offensive to the public sensibilities of our culture, which recognizes divorce and remarriage (as awful a practice as it may be.)

As far as accusing me of being some kind of American Shintoist, I would be very careful about making baseless accusations if I were you. There is something in the Decalogue about bearing false witnesses, I seem to remember.

“Only if God in heaven made a mistake in selecting their parents. ”

By that logic rape is okay if it results in pregnancy.

You have confounded me with the dim light of Calvinist thinking. Polygamy is okay by God (although he forbids it-over and over again.) The state’s role in protecting children doesn’t matter. The positive law forbidding polygamy is irrelevant.

“Woe to you who cause these little ones to stumble. Better for you that a millstone be tied around your neck and cast into the sea. Pretty harsh words coming from Lord Jesus. You might consider that as you continue to advocate the forced removal of happy, non-abused children from the arms of their loving mothers, placing them into the bosom of the godless state with a proven track record of incredibly detestable abuse of all kinds.”

The divine warning directed at me is misguided. Far better that the children be put in the care of rapist fathers and debased mothers to live out a life of incestuous cult worship of a demon “god”, because the parents of these children “love” them, then for the state to use its legitimate power to protect them.

So, as far as millstones are concerned, the same back at you. With knobs on.

Psalm 139: For you created my inmost being, you knit me together in my mother’s womb.

The Fifth Commandment also presumes God’s matching parents to children.

These are verses that come immediately to mind. I could do more research if you’d like. If you have something to the contrary then please share.

I am an open Calvinist that embraces the doctrine of human free will- free to operate within the sovereign will of God that is.

Whoa…Dean! Do you really think God selects parents for all? That is completely nuts.

A culture that plunges into total disregard for the Law of God is morally weak by definition. You are the one who said that is what will happen in this country, ergo you are the one saying this country is morally weak, not me.

A direct question: Is polygamy not an unholy and disgusting practice, abhorrent to Western Civilization, as well as the laws of God and Man?

It is not abhorrent to the laws of God and that is all that matters. Far more abhorrent to the laws of God is our common practice of serial polygamy. That apparently doesn’t bother you nearly so much. Since it is sanctioned by the state god that is apparently good enough for you.

Should children of these disgusting unions not become wards of the state?

Only if God in heaven made a mistake in selecting their parents.

Woe to you who cause these little ones to stumble. Better for you that a millstone be tied around your neck and cast into the sea. Pretty harsh words coming from Lord Jesus. You might consider that as you continue to advocate the forced removal of happy, non-abused children from the arms of their loving mothers, placing them into the bosom of the godless state with a proven track record of incredibly detestable abuse of all kinds.

In Mad Max, there was still gasoline.

Since riots and looting occure as a matter of course almost every time a big city has a blackout, it’s not too far of a leap to suggest that the same thing would happen if there was a nationwide black out.

Such a situation would be aggrivated and protracted by (a) lack of transportation, (b) lack of communication, and (c) lack of food.

I’m sure you have put some thought into where your food, electricity, etc. come from. But most people haven’t. And when light can’t be produced by flipping a switch, and water can’t be obtained by turning a knob on a wall, people will riot.